Satellite Doesn’t Seem Cheaper Than Cable

twc So recently, there’s been a lot of conversation locally about Time Warner’s service with HD. I totally agree after their entire screw up with Navigator firmware and having slowed down much of any sort of television watching. In fact, it’s annoyed me enough to begin again looking at their competition.

Around here, much of the HD signal would be between satellite or cable. But strangely enough, if it’s not any cheaper to switch, then the hassle isn’t worth it. I’ve been told that it’s cheaper for satellite time and again by those on satellite, but when I go look at the total pricing, I must be missing something. For the same pricing of my cable which runs without fees around the sixty dollar range will cost with the lowest satellite competition as seventy dollars, and the the other provider as over seventy dollars per month.

Now from from a price point perspective, I don’t see what the value is when this is a utility that you use for entertainment sake to pay more regardless of the first year loss leader subscription sign up. If you base it completely on regular price (which you will eventually pay), it’s not worth the switch for the same channels that you watch unless you subscribe to movie packages that might be cost less in the long run. I did this based on the mathematics a year ago and came to the same conclusion that I would be paying more per month just to watch same HD channels.

Granted, I’m still annoyed with Time Warner’s slow as molasses Navigator that makes channel surfing a nightmare, but I’m still waiting for something better. Now if Dish Network or DirectTV had a monthly charge of sixty or less, I’d be there in a heartbeat. Too bad, eh?

  • Kid #1

    I think you miss the point of switching to DirecTV (or another provider of your choice). It's not so much that you're saving a ton of money — the fees charged by channel providers (your ESPN's, NFL Networks, etc.) are fairly similar from provider to provider. So it's not as if DirecTV is going to save you a ton of money over the long run because they're paying almost exactly the same fees as Time Warner is.

    However, what you are saving are hassle costs of waiting for the inordinately slow TW service on their TV software to load or to switch channels, the bigger DVR boxes available on DirecTV, the infinitely better customer service and the ability to purchase packages that you wouldn't have available on Time Warner (NFL's Sunday Ticket, primarily).

    If you're basing your move entirely on cost, then there's no reason to switch; TW's internet bundling makes the issue for that. But if you're tired of TW and would prefer to remove a lot of the hassle that comes with them, then switching is a more appealing option.

    -Danny

  • Perhaps, and while I have my complaints… you know my economic situation. And if it was any other time, I'd probably agree with you, but when times are tougher, budgets take a lot more precedence and priority.

    Like I said before, even if it was mere cents? I wouldn't have any issues switching. But when I'm paying more? It better be a tremendous value-add, which I don't see. Dish is better, but not quite there yet. Oh, and if you have DVR, that's great but I don't and never have used it. Might later on, but haven't had a tremendous need for one yet.

    One other thing… While the fees might be similar, your operational costs are different since they're different infrastructure businesses. Thus, to say that they operate on the same level would be incorrect. That's like comparing the cellular business with landline because they're both catering to the consumer's phone needs. I doubt that they can't sell it for cheaper, especially as a subscription based model. I'd rather have no promo and less monthly than discounted for a year. This style of marketing is why I shifted to Vonage altogether instead of paying for TWC's phone/internet/cable bundle.

  • Kid #1

    I think you miss the point of switching to DirecTV (or another provider of your choice). It's not so much that you're saving a ton of money — the fees charged by channel providers (your ESPN's, NFL Networks, etc.) are fairly similar from provider to provider. So it's not as if DirecTV is going to save you a ton of money over the long run because they're paying almost exactly the same fees as Time Warner is.

    However, what you are saving are hassle costs of waiting for the inordinately slow TW service on their TV software to load or to switch channels, the bigger DVR boxes available on DirecTV, the infinitely better customer service and the ability to purchase packages that you wouldn't have available on Time Warner (NFL's Sunday Ticket, primarily).

    If you're basing your move entirely on cost, then there's no reason to switch; TW's internet bundling makes the issue for that. But if you're tired of TW and would prefer to remove a lot of the hassle that comes with them, then switching is a more appealing option.

    -Danny

  • Perhaps, and while I have my complaints… you know my economic situation. And if it was any other time, I'd probably agree with you, but when times are tougher, budgets take a lot more precedence and priority.

    Like I said before, even if it was mere cents? I wouldn't have any issues switching. But when I'm paying more? It better be a tremendous value-add, which I don't see. Dish is better, but not quite there yet. Oh, and if you have DVR, that's great but I don't and never have used it. Might later on, but haven't had a tremendous need for one yet.

    One other thing… While the fees might be similar, your operational costs are different since they're different infrastructure businesses. Thus, to say that they operate on the same level would be incorrect. That's like comparing the cellular business with landline because they're both catering to the consumer's phone needs. I doubt that they can't sell it for cheaper, especially as a subscription based model. I'd rather have no promo and less monthly than discounted for a year. This style of marketing is why I shifted to Vonage altogether instead of paying for TWC's phone/internet/cable bundle.