Illegal immigrants getting in-state tuiton? WHA???

I first heard about this little tidbit of news from a buddy of mine.
First reaction was: “WHAAA??”
And I still stand by that reaction. Here’s the thing. While it sounds like these administrators for both the community colleges and now the UNC system are trying to make it affordable for people to get an education… let’s face it. This is a money play, than a good will play.
With in-state tuition on the rise, I have no clue how you’re going to get illegal immigrants to prove their residency not to mention there are a number of things such as SAT scores, and transcripts. It’s easy enough to obtain forged documentation to get work here, so what’s to say that this wouldn’t just create a black market for these types of documents? And how do you know that people would be taking advantage of this opportunity?
Personally, I think it’s a shoddy deal. Let’s face it. Those of us that are residents, don’t even take advantage of the in-state tuition enough. What’s to say that illegals would? They came here for jobs, and maybe a better life, but they probably didn’t come for an education. On top of that, just try pulling financial aid. How do you think these illegals will be paying for this education?
This opens a whole new can of worms and one that I just can’t see people standing by and watching from the sidelines. As a child of immigrants that came legally, I have to say that it seems like it demeans the whole legal process of coming into the country if you provide rights to illegals that are similar to those that are here legally.
Not sure what people will do about this, but I can tell you that it sure sounds like a crock if I’ve ever heard of one.

  • I never saw it as a goodwill play, but another method to identify illegals and start them down the road to citizenship. Also, the number of people for whom this will have effect is surely miniscule. I see it more as tweaking the nose of the right.

  • I never saw it as a goodwill play, but another method to identify illegals and start them down the road to citizenship. Also, the number of people for whom this will have effect is surely miniscule. I see it more as tweaking the nose of the right.

  • At an immigration rally last year, I met a 16 year-old whose parents moved her here when she was an infant. She has never known life anywhere else but here, she has gone to school only here. Her family and families liker her’s pay sales tax whenever they buy anything, property taxes directly or through rent and, unless her parents’ employers are skirting the law, income tax.
    It seems to me that a child in that situation should get in-state tuition, unless you want to penalize her for a decision her parents made 16 years ago.

  • At an immigration rally last year, I met a 16 year-old whose parents moved her here when she was an infant. She has never known life anywhere else but here, she has gone to school only here. Her family and families liker her’s pay sales tax whenever they buy anything, property taxes directly or through rent and, unless her parents’ employers are skirting the law, income tax.
    It seems to me that a child in that situation should get in-state tuition, unless you want to penalize her for a decision her parents made 16 years ago.

  • It’s a tough call. I’m all for letting them go to college, but I think they need to pay out of state tuition. Sure, the family Roch mentions has likely paid plenty of sales and use tax, but I think it is a line worth drawing.
    Here’s why.
    I got married and moved my wife to Virginia for 10 months. She is a seven generation native of NC and I am a fourth generation native Tarheel. We both graduated from public school in NC and got our undergrad degrees at state universities with in-state tuition status.
    When we moved back to NC so my wife could pursue her MA at UNCG, we had to live here for a year until we could get our residency back, thus costing us thousands of extra dollars in out of state tuition. Oh yeah, we hadn’t even established residency in Virginia, but since we were honest in filling out the paperwork and they noted our out of state address, yep, we’re no longer NC residents.
    I burned up the phone all the way to provost and nobody cared.
    I understand illegal immigrants are here for economic purposes, but my toleration of their rule bending has its limits and I think this is it.

  • It’s a tough call. I’m all for letting them go to college, but I think they need to pay out of state tuition. Sure, the family Roch mentions has likely paid plenty of sales and use tax, but I think it is a line worth drawing.
    Here’s why.
    I got married and moved my wife to Virginia for 10 months. She is a seven generation native of NC and I am a fourth generation native Tarheel. We both graduated from public school in NC and got our undergrad degrees at state universities with in-state tuition status.
    When we moved back to NC so my wife could pursue her MA at UNCG, we had to live here for a year until we could get our residency back, thus costing us thousands of extra dollars in out of state tuition. Oh yeah, we hadn’t even established residency in Virginia, but since we were honest in filling out the paperwork and they noted our out of state address, yep, we’re no longer NC residents.
    I burned up the phone all the way to provost and nobody cared.
    I understand illegal immigrants are here for economic purposes, but my toleration of their rule bending has its limits and I think this is it.

  • I think it’s worth mentioning that if you’ve established residency here, then that’s no different from myself moving from Washington State and establishing residency.
    The point however is that if you start handing over what rights as citizens that you gain here, then what’s the point of being a citizen? I mean seriously. Next thing you know, illegals will gain the right to vote. Then what?
    The point is that … you give a little, and it’s going to go south from there. If you’re a refugee, then it’s different. If you were born here, then it’s different. But if you’re illegally here? Ehh, I really have no sympathy.
    Sorry. When my parents and my relatives had to go through the crappy paperwork and process, and those that didn’t get into the US moved to Canada? I really personally don’t feel sorry for anyone else that bypasses that system.
    Like I’ve said before. Land of opportunity. But do it through the right channels like everyone else.

  • darkmoon

    I think it’s worth mentioning that if you’ve established residency here, then that’s no different from myself moving from Washington State and establishing residency.
    The point however is that if you start handing over what rights as citizens that you gain here, then what’s the point of being a citizen? I mean seriously. Next thing you know, illegals will gain the right to vote. Then what?
    The point is that … you give a little, and it’s going to go south from there. If you’re a refugee, then it’s different. If you were born here, then it’s different. But if you’re illegally here? Ehh, I really have no sympathy.
    Sorry. When my parents and my relatives had to go through the crappy paperwork and process, and those that didn’t get into the US moved to Canada? I really personally don’t feel sorry for anyone else that bypasses that system.
    Like I’ve said before. Land of opportunity. But do it through the right channels like everyone else.