Rage posting

I’m coining a new phrase. Rage posting. Similar to rage commenting.
rage post
[reyj pohst] – noun. rage posted, rage posting, noun, verb.
1. Emotion driven posting or commenting without regard for editing where the author uses the feelings to drive the thoughts: Tim rage posted after Bob stole his girlfriend.


Why did this happen? Some unnamed people tried to turn ConvergeSouth into a political playground instead of the true agenda of using technology to allow the general public’s voice be heard. That’s why the motto is “Creativity online for everyone.”
That’s right. This is first amendment. Your right as an American citizen, and how to use it to talk back to the world, beit through text, audio, or video. Sue also had a bit on how the history of ConvergeSouth started since it was my bright idea, and her and Ed Cone‘s execution that made it possible. So as I sat in the background doing my thing, I finally had it with some people that were poo-pooing everything without actually participating in the conference and had to take out my thwack-stick and beat some heads.
Yes, I do have an underlying agenda. I’m trying to advocate technology to the community while selling Greensboro. That’s the ugly truth of all the fun. But really, what conference of festival isn’t about marketing and selling.
I’ll be the first to admit there are many more liberal and perhaps more political motivated invitees this time around. But the Scobles are none of that. Elizabeth Edwards asked to join and being that we’re short on funding, and she just happens to be a huge name for both North Carolina and nationally, so we immediately accepted. It’s not like a whole bunch of conservative bloggers came dancing out of the wood work to come speak about technology when we mention that we’re not paying them.
So there you have it. dm went out and said it. You don’t like it, you can go back to the cave you crawled out of because I’m sick and tired of telling people that I love taking my ideas and going behind the scenes to build a better community for both technology and economics. It’s hard to do when some people keep dragging the work that I and others do through the mud and then dragging me to the foreground. That’s right, I don’t like it. I’d much rather talk about technology, and the latest open-source gig. But these unamed few leave me no choice but to pull out my 9s and go ablazing. Don’t like it? Go find someone else’s party to cry about. I’m trying to do real work.
To LUX’s other readers from national and world, I apologize. But when someone is raining on your parade, sometimes you just have to pull out the sword and scream, “Tally Ho!” and charge ahead without fear. They say, to take life by the horns. I prefer to bring it down, whip it on its back, and tie up the legs in three point four seconds.
Back to your regular scheduled programming.

  • It’s indeed sad that some seem to be incapable of seeing things in anything other than a political light. The need to remove the chips from their shoulders and learn from folks like yourself who have so much to offer us.

  • It’s indeed sad that some seem to be incapable of seeing things in anything other than a political light. The need to remove the chips from their shoulders and learn from folks like yourself who have so much to offer us.

  • It’s indeed sad that some seem to be incapable of seeing things in anything other than a political light. The need to remove the chips from their shoulders and learn from folks like yourself who have so much to offer us.

  • Darkmoon, you’re an apolitical kind of guy, so I’m sure your sentiments are genuine and I suspect you’d be saying the same things if it were a conservative political figure who was invited and it was the left who was raising Cain — which, I have no doubt, would happen.
    I’m curious about this though: “It’s not like a whole bunch of conservative bloggers came dancing out of the wood work to come speak about technology when we mention that we’re not paying them.”
    Were there conservative bloggers who were invited but turned down an invitation when told they wouldn’t be paid? Are any of the attendees receiving a stipend?

  • Darkmoon, you’re an apolitical kind of guy, so I’m sure your sentiments are genuine and I suspect you’d be saying the same things if it were a conservative political figure who was invited and it was the left who was raising Cain — which, I have no doubt, would happen.
    I’m curious about this though: “It’s not like a whole bunch of conservative bloggers came dancing out of the wood work to come speak about technology when we mention that we’re not paying them.”
    Were there conservative bloggers who were invited but turned down an invitation when told they wouldn’t be paid? Are any of the attendees receiving a stipend?

  • No on the stipends.
    I bring it up because people keep thinking that for some odd reason, we can pull Michelle Malkin out of nowhere. If you read her site, she has a contact for speaking engagements. Those are usually paid and very normal at her level. I did ask Joi Ito last year (well-known VC) and he said usually he did it for somewhere around 10k at least. That’s a tough act to swallow if you don’t have much to begin with.
    As far as conservative bloggers go, I didn’t do any inviting but the one in question from my understanding actually approached us, instead of the other way around. Maybe that’s true, maybe it isn’t, but I’m not about to bicker about it with the other organizers. I take their word as truth so if they say so, then it’s what they say.
    I agree however, that regardless, if situations were flipped it would have been the same results just different parties. But you know what? That’s not what the conference is about.

  • darkmoon

    No on the stipends.
    I bring it up because people keep thinking that for some odd reason, we can pull Michelle Malkin out of nowhere. If you read her site, she has a contact for speaking engagements. Those are usually paid and very normal at her level. I did ask Joi Ito last year (well-known VC) and he said usually he did it for somewhere around 10k at least. That’s a tough act to swallow if you don’t have much to begin with.
    As far as conservative bloggers go, I didn’t do any inviting but the one in question from my understanding actually approached us, instead of the other way around. Maybe that’s true, maybe it isn’t, but I’m not about to bicker about it with the other organizers. I take their word as truth so if they say so, then it’s what they say.
    I agree however, that regardless, if situations were flipped it would have been the same results just different parties. But you know what? That’s not what the conference is about.

  • Sue

    Mrs. Edwards expressed interest in leading a discussion at ConvergeSouth. We sought other discussion leaders at various times during the planning and some, when told there was no speaking fee, declined. I did not keep track of their politics when they said no. I just moved on.
    There are some people who asked to be on the 2007 (somewhat larger) ConvergeSouth agenda. We’ll talk about them because we don’t want speakers; rather, we want discussion leaders. The audience is the most important “people” in the room. Unless the leader understands this, and unless the leader agrees not to give a speech, we don’t want them — no matter how famous or marquee their names might be.
    That much has not changed over these two years and I hope it never does.

  • Sue

    Mrs. Edwards expressed interest in leading a discussion at ConvergeSouth. We sought other discussion leaders at various times during the planning and some, when told there was no speaking fee, declined. I did not keep track of their politics when they said no. I just moved on.
    There are some people who asked to be on the 2007 (somewhat larger) ConvergeSouth agenda. We’ll talk about them because we don’t want speakers; rather, we want discussion leaders. The audience is the most important “people” in the room. Unless the leader understands this, and unless the leader agrees not to give a speech, we don’t want them — no matter how famous or marquee their names might be.
    That much has not changed over these two years and I hope it never does.

  • “Tally Ho!”
    haha!

  • “Tally Ho!”
    haha!

  • “Tally Ho!”
    haha!

  • Darkmoon,
    I am writing to you basically the same thing I wrote to Sue.
    I support and respect what you and Sue and others are doing in and with converge South. I am 100% supportive of your purpose. I am really not much of a conference kind of guy – what little free time I have I seem to want to spend in the woods these days – but I truly and honestly think that the whole thing is a great idea. I want to do more, and this is a tool from which I could benefit. I figured you would here about my brief rant about “Converging and Diverging,” and then, when I thought about it some more, I did not want to seem ungrateful to you for your work. I had a grumpy blogging day I think, and I just do not did not not buy the line in some threads I read that Mrs. Edwards coming was somehow apolitical. I mean, her stated purpose is apoltiical, but she is hardly apolitical, at least to many conservatives, and after reading all the talk about her I made a snide comment about rather having a root canal than watching people fawn all over her. I’m not really having a root canal. I guess I wrote to you kind of confessionally, sorry if my words contributed even a slight wisp to any cloud over the project (not likely as few people who read them!), yet finding myself frustrated that some people don’t seem to see how much a poke in the eye it is to some, to many perhaps, to have the wife of John Edwards come to such a thing as a special guest. The way that a lot of people, well maybe most people around here, feel about Bush, well, that’s about how many conservative folks feel about Edwards. Anyway, I was just trying to address that narrower point in a more salty way than I usually talk about things. And after I did that I felt bad – specifically with you and Darkmoon in mind, and didn’t want to be interpreted as not appreaciating your hard work. I think now, if at all possible, I may try to come, despite my rant, because I think your stated goal is a good and worthy one.

  • Darkmoon,
    I am writing to you basically the same thing I wrote to Sue.
    I support and respect what you and Sue and others are doing in and with converge South. I am 100% supportive of your purpose. I am really not much of a conference kind of guy – what little free time I have I seem to want to spend in the woods these days – but I truly and honestly think that the whole thing is a great idea. I want to do more, and this is a tool from which I could benefit. I figured you would here about my brief rant about “Converging and Diverging,” and then, when I thought about it some more, I did not want to seem ungrateful to you for your work. I had a grumpy blogging day I think, and I just do not did not not buy the line in some threads I read that Mrs. Edwards coming was somehow apolitical. I mean, her stated purpose is apoltiical, but she is hardly apolitical, at least to many conservatives, and after reading all the talk about her I made a snide comment about rather having a root canal than watching people fawn all over her. I’m not really having a root canal. I guess I wrote to you kind of confessionally, sorry if my words contributed even a slight wisp to any cloud over the project (not likely as few people who read them!), yet finding myself frustrated that some people don’t seem to see how much a poke in the eye it is to some, to many perhaps, to have the wife of John Edwards come to such a thing as a special guest. The way that a lot of people, well maybe most people around here, feel about Bush, well, that’s about how many conservative folks feel about Edwards. Anyway, I was just trying to address that narrower point in a more salty way than I usually talk about things. And after I did that I felt bad – specifically with you and Darkmoon in mind, and didn’t want to be interpreted as not appreaciating your hard work. I think now, if at all possible, I may try to come, despite my rant, because I think your stated goal is a good and worthy one.

  • Darkmoon,
    I am writing to you basically the same thing I wrote to Sue.
    I support and respect what you and Sue and others are doing in and with converge South. I am 100% supportive of your purpose. I am really not much of a conference kind of guy – what little free time I have I seem to want to spend in the woods these days – but I truly and honestly think that the whole thing is a great idea. I want to do more, and this is a tool from which I could benefit. I figured you would here about my brief rant about “Converging and Diverging,” and then, when I thought about it some more, I did not want to seem ungrateful to you for your work. I had a grumpy blogging day I think, and I just do not did not not buy the line in some threads I read that Mrs. Edwards coming was somehow apolitical. I mean, her stated purpose is apoltiical, but she is hardly apolitical, at least to many conservatives, and after reading all the talk about her I made a snide comment about rather having a root canal than watching people fawn all over her. I’m not really having a root canal. I guess I wrote to you kind of confessionally, sorry if my words contributed even a slight wisp to any cloud over the project (not likely as few people who read them!), yet finding myself frustrated that some people don’t seem to see how much a poke in the eye it is to some, to many perhaps, to have the wife of John Edwards come to such a thing as a special guest. The way that a lot of people, well maybe most people around here, feel about Bush, well, that’s about how many conservative folks feel about Edwards. Anyway, I was just trying to address that narrower point in a more salty way than I usually talk about things. And after I did that I felt bad – specifically with you and Darkmoon in mind, and didn’t want to be interpreted as not appreaciating your hard work. I think now, if at all possible, I may try to come, despite my rant, because I think your stated goal is a good and worthy one.

  • hey joel, weren’t you and hoggard trying to remove yourself from the divisive rhetoric of the “conservative” vs. “liberal” labeling just a few weeks back? it seems to me that being present for this particular speaker at this particular conference would be one such opportunity, no?
    btw, comparing mrs. edwards — who is leading a discussion on building community — with george bush… well, it must be a sign of your oxymoronic sense of dark humor. 😉

  • hey joel, weren’t you and hoggard trying to remove yourself from the divisive rhetoric of the “conservative” vs. “liberal” labeling just a few weeks back? it seems to me that being present for this particular speaker at this particular conference would be one such opportunity, no?
    btw, comparing mrs. edwards — who is leading a discussion on building community — with george bush… well, it must be a sign of your oxymoronic sense of dark humor. 😉

  • hey joel, weren’t you and hoggard trying to remove yourself from the divisive rhetoric of the “conservative” vs. “liberal” labeling just a few weeks back? it seems to me that being present for this particular speaker at this particular conference would be one such opportunity, no?
    btw, comparing mrs. edwards — who is leading a discussion on building community — with george bush… well, it must be a sign of your oxymoronic sense of dark humor. 😉

  • darkmoon,
    I wish I had not waded into this. There was a particular assumption that I took issue with, but at any rate, conferences aren’t my thing really. Even if she was not coming I would not likely come because of that, and other responsibilites. But now I feel like I HAVE to make a showing etc. I doubt in the end I will, but I hope it goes well or all concerned. We’ll see. I could use Hoggard’s point to upgrade my previous argument, but I’m tired and I won’t. I just wish I had not gotten into this at all.

  • darkmoon,
    I wish I had not waded into this. There was a particular assumption that I took issue with, but at any rate, conferences aren’t my thing really. Even if she was not coming I would not likely come because of that, and other responsibilites. But now I feel like I HAVE to make a showing etc. I doubt in the end I will, but I hope it goes well or all concerned. We’ll see. I could use Hoggard’s point to upgrade my previous argument, but I’m tired and I won’t. I just wish I had not gotten into this at all.

  • darkmoon,
    I wish I had not waded into this. There was a particular assumption that I took issue with, but at any rate, conferences aren’t my thing really. Even if she was not coming I would not likely come because of that, and other responsibilites. But now I feel like I HAVE to make a showing etc. I doubt in the end I will, but I hope it goes well or all concerned. We’ll see. I could use Hoggard’s point to upgrade my previous argument, but I’m tired and I won’t. I just wish I had not gotten into this at all.

  • Hoggard could tell you, regardless of the invitees last year, it was not politically charged.
    Regardless of all of this, you of all people should know you’re welcome to come if you wish but don’t feel obligated.

  • Hoggard could tell you, regardless of the invitees last year, it was not politically charged.
    Regardless of all of this, you of all people should know you’re welcome to come if you wish but don’t feel obligated.

  • darkmoon

    Hoggard could tell you, regardless of the invitees last year, it was not politically charged.
    Regardless of all of this, you of all people should know you’re welcome to come if you wish but don’t feel obligated.

  • Ginger Bush

    I also made comments (on Sue’s blog) that I regret.
    I thought that she and Cone were trying to bring Edwards to the conference, to speak on ‘building community’ with blogs.
    I did not realize she had asked to speak at the conference on the subject, one that is sorely needed given GSO’s negative blogging atmosphere.
    I appologize for any misunderstanding that occured and my own negative comments.

  • Ginger Bush

    I also made comments (on Sue’s blog) that I regret.
    I thought that she and Cone were trying to bring Edwards to the conference, to speak on ‘building community’ with blogs.
    I did not realize she had asked to speak at the conference on the subject, one that is sorely needed given GSO’s negative blogging atmosphere.
    I appologize for any misunderstanding that occured and my own negative comments.

  • Ginger Bush

    I also made comments (on Sue’s blog) that I regret.
    I thought that she and Cone were trying to bring Edwards to the conference, to speak on ‘building community’ with blogs.
    I did not realize she had asked to speak at the conference on the subject, one that is sorely needed given GSO’s negative blogging atmosphere.
    I appologize for any misunderstanding that occured and my own negative comments.

  • I also made comments (on Sue’s blog) that I regret. I apologize for any misunderstanding that occurred and my own negative comments.
    I thought that she and Cone were trying to bring Edwards to the conference, to speak on ‘building community’ with blogs.
    I did not realize she had asked to speak at the conference on the subject, one that is sorely needed given much of GSO’s negative blogging atmosphere; many sites are noted to be hateful and ugly.
    The One America site, at least in the Edward’s diaries, is one of the more positive sites I’ve seen, both in authorship and comment. We could all learn from the same.

  • I also made comments (on Sue’s blog) that I regret. I apologize for any misunderstanding that occurred and my own negative comments.
    I thought that she and Cone were trying to bring Edwards to the conference, to speak on ‘building community’ with blogs.
    I did not realize she had asked to speak at the conference on the subject, one that is sorely needed given much of GSO’s negative blogging atmosphere; many sites are noted to be hateful and ugly.
    The One America site, at least in the Edward’s diaries, is one of the more positive sites I’ve seen, both in authorship and comment. We could all learn from the same.

  • I also made comments (on Sue’s blog) that I regret. I apologize for any misunderstanding that occurred and my own negative comments.
    I thought that she and Cone were trying to bring Edwards to the conference, to speak on ‘building community’ with blogs.
    I did not realize she had asked to speak at the conference on the subject, one that is sorely needed given much of GSO’s negative blogging atmosphere; many sites are noted to be hateful and ugly.
    The One America site, at least in the Edward’s diaries, is one of the more positive sites I’ve seen, both in authorship and comment. We could all learn from the same.

  • Crossing the line, aren’t you DM? I never complained about Edwards coming. I did ask what she has to do with Blogging- and that was a fair question.
    Here’s how stupid you sound-you are angry because Elizabeth Edwards is considered a political figure! Imagine!
    I did mention Malkin- because she is a blogger and has helped build a community- so what? You’ve raised more hell about that than anyone has about Edwards.
    I don’t want to be passive agressive here. You (liberal bloggers) really don’t get how hypocritical you are towards folks who disagree with you.

  • Crossing the line, aren’t you DM? I never complained about Edwards coming. I did ask what she has to do with Blogging- and that was a fair question.
    Here’s how stupid you sound-you are angry because Elizabeth Edwards is considered a political figure! Imagine!
    I did mention Malkin- because she is a blogger and has helped build a community- so what? You’ve raised more hell about that than anyone has about Edwards.
    I don’t want to be passive agressive here. You (liberal bloggers) really don’t get how hypocritical you are towards folks who disagree with you.

  • Crossing the line, aren’t you DM? I never complained about Edwards coming. I did ask what she has to do with Blogging- and that was a fair question.
    Here’s how stupid you sound-you are angry because Elizabeth Edwards is considered a political figure! Imagine!
    I did mention Malkin- because she is a blogger and has helped build a community- so what? You’ve raised more hell about that than anyone has about Edwards.
    I don’t want to be passive agressive here. You (liberal bloggers) really don’t get how hypocritical you are towards folks who disagree with you.

  • Let’s see. did I mention you Chip? No. In actuality, I explained to you that I didn’t think that you were the snowballer. Maybe you missed that in the “3+” comments!
    If anyone, those few people did not include you although you misunderstood where it came from.
    Since you keep missing the point, let me put it in PLAIN ENGLISH.
    CONVERGESOUTH IS A TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE. LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING.
    Like I said before, you asked a question and Ed answered it. End of story.

  • Let’s see. did I mention you Chip? No. In actuality, I explained to you that I didn’t think that you were the snowballer. Maybe you missed that in the “3+” comments!
    If anyone, those few people did not include you although you misunderstood where it came from.
    Since you keep missing the point, let me put it in PLAIN ENGLISH.
    CONVERGESOUTH IS A TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE. LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING.
    Like I said before, you asked a question and Ed answered it. End of story.

  • darkmoon

    Let’s see. did I mention you Chip? No. In actuality, I explained to you that I didn’t think that you were the snowballer. Maybe you missed that in the “3+” comments!
    If anyone, those few people did not include you although you misunderstood where it came from.
    Since you keep missing the point, let me put it in PLAIN ENGLISH.
    CONVERGESOUTH IS A TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE. LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING.
    Like I said before, you asked a question and Ed answered it. End of story.

  • One other thing. If a community person via technology offered to come with E. Edwards notoriety but happened to be of conservative political background would make no difference to me.
    Lack of funds knows no politics.

  • One other thing. If a community person via technology offered to come with E. Edwards notoriety but happened to be of conservative political background would make no difference to me.
    Lack of funds knows no politics.

  • darkmoon

    One other thing. If a community person via technology offered to come with E. Edwards notoriety but happened to be of conservative political background would make no difference to me.
    Lack of funds knows no politics.

  • I am relieved. I need to explain- I’ve gotten some spiteful stuff thrown at me- and some have assumed your barbs were towards me- so I took the bait. My apologies.

  • I am relieved. I need to explain- I’ve gotten some spiteful stuff thrown at me- and some have assumed your barbs were towards me- so I took the bait. My apologies.

  • Ginger Bush

    Where is the thread where ‘some have assumed’ that Dark Moon’s barbs were aimed at Chip?
    Also, Dark Moon, I’ve answered your comments to me on Sue’s thread,
    http://sue.polinsky.com/?p=2340#comments

  • Ginger Bush

    Where is the thread where ‘some have assumed’ that Dark Moon’s barbs were aimed at Chip?
    Also, Dark Moon, I’ve answered your comments to me on Sue’s thread,
    http://sue.polinsky.com/?p=2340#comments

  • I dropped a few bombs on Chip before, but I saw where he was coming from on his blog after I chimed in and re-read Ed’s thread a couple times.
    It’s funny but last year’s political session would have been great with the two sides working together as discussion leaders. Next year, I’m torn between actually having a political session or going forth since as a hot topic (as politics is always) it does draw a crowd.
    If we were to ask Instapundit to DL (a political session), would this make the conservatives happy? I’m not out to start a brawl so that is being dictated from conversations about the TN conference last year. I’m going to have to think about this.

  • darkmoon

    I dropped a few bombs on Chip before, but I saw where he was coming from on his blog after I chimed in and re-read Ed’s thread a couple times.
    It’s funny but last year’s political session would have been great with the two sides working together as discussion leaders. Next year, I’m torn between actually having a political session or going forth since as a hot topic (as politics is always) it does draw a crowd.
    If we were to ask Instapundit to DL (a political session), would this make the conservatives happy? I’m not out to start a brawl so that is being dictated from conversations about the TN conference last year. I’m going to have to think about this.